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	<title>Comments on: The RCA&#8217;s Inconsistency Concerning Supporting Women in Ministry</title>
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	<description>Evangelicals for Gender Equality</description>
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		<title>by: CT</title>
		<link>http://www.christianegalitarians.org/archives/99#comment-268</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Actually, I'm not as dim on the RCA as you might think.  It is always a challenge for Christians to decide what to do when their own theology and/or ways of approaching the Christian life has moved on from their mother church or mother denomination. Do you wait around and fight issues that you've already long ago solved in your own mind (obviously a negative and draining process), or do you leave and therefore be freed up to engage in more positive kingdom-building activities, pulling together with others in a mission that one believes in.  The RCA is the denomination that I ended up in, not the one I left.

This blog is about gender issues in the church.  I'm generally quite a laid-back person and do not readily get involved in movements or bandwagons; I'd rather move on and find a group of more like-minded people to do God's work with.  It's a matter of intellectual and emotional sanity.

As far as gender equality goes, here's what I left: women could not preach or be in the church leadership (elder board); could not teach a class where men were present; could not pray publicly; could not read the Bible aloud publicly; could not give their testimony publicly if men were present; could not serve communion; could not pass the plate; had to wear head coverings to publicly show their submission.  Women cannot do only two or three activities in that list of nine in my RCA church, and those actions go against official denominational theology and practics.  Do I think there's hope for the RCA on this issue?  A whole lot more than many other denominations.

Of course when people are church shopping, they're asking, &quot;Is this church being effective reaching people like me?&quot; and &quot;Can I be effective here?&quot;  And that involves much more than the gender equality issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually, I&#8217;m not as dim on the RCA as you might think.  It is always a challenge for Christians to decide what to do when their own theology and/or ways of approaching the Christian life has moved on from their mother church or mother denomination. Do you wait around and fight issues that you&#8217;ve already long ago solved in your own mind (obviously a negative and draining process), or do you leave and therefore be freed up to engage in more positive kingdom-building activities, pulling together with others in a mission that one believes in.  The RCA is the denomination that I ended up in, not the one I left.</p>
	<p>This blog is about gender issues in the church.  I&#8217;m generally quite a laid-back person and do not readily get involved in movements or bandwagons; I&#8217;d rather move on and find a group of more like-minded people to do God&#8217;s work with.  It&#8217;s a matter of intellectual and emotional sanity.</p>
	<p>As far as gender equality goes, here&#8217;s what I left: women could not preach or be in the church leadership (elder board); could not teach a class where men were present; could not pray publicly; could not read the Bible aloud publicly; could not give their testimony publicly if men were present; could not serve communion; could not pass the plate; had to wear head coverings to publicly show their submission.  Women cannot do only two or three activities in that list of nine in my RCA church, and those actions go against official denominational theology and practics.  Do I think there&#8217;s hope for the RCA on this issue?  A whole lot more than many other denominations.</p>
	<p>Of course when people are church shopping, they&#8217;re asking, &#8220;Is this church being effective reaching people like me?&#8221; and &#8220;Can I be effective here?&#8221;  And that involves much more than the gender equality issue.
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		<title>by: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.christianegalitarians.org/archives/99#comment-267</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You can do as I did within the RCA and accidently state that the clause had been removed only to find out later that it had not.  There are people that are struggling within the walls of the church that you are fighitng to enter into.  Please do not leave the denomination.  The challenge that I faced within seminary was the females that felt it was their duty to be pastors but had no calling.  The same applies to the men as well.  I studied with some of the best pastors who are also women.  I also studied with some individuals that were walking across the bridge because they had an agenda to push rather then pursuing Christ's calling.  Unfortunately individuals who are pushing their own agenda rather than God's do a great diservice for everyone involved, but it sounds like it has negatively impacted you and I am greatly sorry for that.  I pray that we may serve within this denomination together to see Christ glorified and help to advance His Kingdom coming here on earth as it is in Heaven.  Please do not give up hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You can do as I did within the RCA and accidently state that the clause had been removed only to find out later that it had not.  There are people that are struggling within the walls of the church that you are fighitng to enter into.  Please do not leave the denomination.  The challenge that I faced within seminary was the females that felt it was their duty to be pastors but had no calling.  The same applies to the men as well.  I studied with some of the best pastors who are also women.  I also studied with some individuals that were walking across the bridge because they had an agenda to push rather then pursuing Christ&#8217;s calling.  Unfortunately individuals who are pushing their own agenda rather than God&#8217;s do a great diservice for everyone involved, but it sounds like it has negatively impacted you and I am greatly sorry for that.  I pray that we may serve within this denomination together to see Christ glorified and help to advance His Kingdom coming here on earth as it is in Heaven.  Please do not give up hope.
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		<title>by: ann</title>
		<link>http://www.christianegalitarians.org/archives/99#comment-257</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thank you for publishing this piece.  Indeed, in some areas there hasn't been much change for women.  The difference between opportunities for women to serve in the east verses in the midwest is quite stark.  The presence of women in leadership in the east is pretty much a given, although you don't see many women pastoring &quot;tall steeple&quot; churches.  We're mainly in small urban or rural churches.  Thank you again for talking about this important issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thank you for publishing this piece.  Indeed, in some areas there hasn&#8217;t been much change for women.  The difference between opportunities for women to serve in the east verses in the midwest is quite stark.  The presence of women in leadership in the east is pretty much a given, although you don&#8217;t see many women pastoring &#8220;tall steeple&#8221; churches.  We&#8217;re mainly in small urban or rural churches.  Thank you again for talking about this important issue.
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